NCF as of March 2018[]
- "The “Fall of Cadia” segment details safe travel through the Warp, which is a bit much, and recovery of Pylon fragments, which are central to GW canon. Chapter Fleet: Space Marines employ Battle Barges, not Imperial Navy Battleships. Also, you have more Strike Cruisers than the Ultramarines, for reference. Fellblades are incredibly rare, so being able to field one, even more than one, is stretching it. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Fellblade#fn_6a Similarly, the Mastodon is a rare Horus Heresy era vehicle. Alliances, non-aggression pacts, and similar between Xenos and Imperials is very canon unfriendly. Sanctioned psykers are not attached to Space Marine chapters. In addition, human psykers never surpass Beta grade."
As I do agree with the first part of the user placed NCF tag, the chapter fleet portion is debatable. There are chapters who have deployed other ships than battle barges and strike cruisers. These include Blood Angels, Angels Vermillion, Carcharodons, Executioners, Minotaurs and Iron Hands for the very least. Sure, they tend to fill the role of fortress-monastery/flagship.
I don't know where you have picked up that humans can't exceed beta grade, because they surely can. They can also be displayed in stasis as a war booty, as they are in Eisenhorn books by Dan Abnett.
So I'm ruling those parts out of the NCF tag because I find them, as an admin, incorrect. --Remos talk 13:45, March 28, 2018 (UTC)
I'd also recommend you to take a new look on our canon policy. --Remos talk 13:49, March 28, 2018 (UTC)
I understand what you're saying about the ships, since I only check against first and second founding chapters. However, after the HH the use of such ships plummets considerably, and even in the links you provide the ships in questions are a cruiser, and a couple of frigates, nothing on the scale of a Battleship, let alone two of them.
As to the matter of psykers, it's not that they don't exist but the stability problems they have above beta. Examples such as the Apex Twins or Puppet Master spring to minde as canon A and A+ psykers. Also, and linking up with the canon policy, there it is stated that the Astartes do not have permanent human auxiliaries, nor indeed auxiliaries from other Imperial institutions. As to the stasis part, that did slip me completely.
These things, however, are tenous in general since it is rare that the Psyker Grade system is actually used in the canon. --Goremaw talk
I do think that Astartes should stick with their own armoury, as it comes to the fleet vessels. I just don't think it is completely out of question for a chapter to use vessels that are generally considered as part of the Imperial Navy. I'd like to judge the composition of power and the composition of 4 battle-barge/battle-ship is not over the top.
The idea of sanctioned alpha class psyker is ludicrous and undoubtly NCF. But the idea of human surpassing alpha level is not. So when you, Goremaw, tag articles for being NCF, try to stick with the "facts" available. Chapters don't use sanctioned psykers and permanent attachment from other Imperial organizations is against our canon policy.
E: My god, I forgot to sign. --Remos talk 15:03, March 28, 2018 (UTC)
I'm changing the banner to reflect the discussion. Edit: Nevermind, see you already changed it.--Goremaw talk